Comments on: Thoughts on Tarot

By: tushko

tushko — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:39:13 +0000

Hello 94 Stranger.
I don’t think that M.Seaqueen’s Blog is the place to discuss this issue. If you wish please head over to my Blog.
Just a quick note for clarification: I am an Canadian trained Osteopath which is very much like a British Osteopath both in training and in scope of practice.I do not deal in treating people’s
psychological or spiritual issues..

By: 94stranger

94stranger — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:35:15 +0000

Hi Tushko
Seaqueen gave me this link, and having thus found out that you are a psychotherapist, I’m curious to know how you would react to the very extensive treatment I have given to the subject of Rainring and psychotherapy at the link below.
In case you decide to have a look, I’d like to anticipate with two additional comments: first, I’d like, ideally, to see therapists using Rainring [i.e. not Rainring versus therapy, but the two working in tandem]; second, ANY comments would be welcome (I think), as this particular work has been greeted so far with a deafening silence!

http://cartomancy.freeforums.org/rainring-f14.html

Seaqueen,
It’s been very interesting finding out (from the header article above) in more depth about how you work, and how you understand this process. If you’re not familiar with the stuff on the above link, it might be of some interest to you (and definitely to me to hear your reactions), as it seems clear to me that there is invariably a psycho-therpeutic dimension involved whenever someone is reading cards for someone else, although – as you say – perhaps much attenuated in certain ‘fortune-telling’ situations.

By: Madame Seaqueen

Madame Seaqueen — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:49:01 +0000

Greetings Tushko,
Thank you for your comment.

My point in all of this, was merely to state that many people prefer evidence (a visual) of some sort in the actual process. There are exceptions to everything.

I am humbled by your compliment. Thank you.
Madame Seaqueen

By: Tushko

Tushko — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:22:55 +0000

Hello again:
As a professional therapist I would venture that the Diploma is only there to create client confidence that I am trained to do what I said I could do,beyond that the outcome of a treatment rests on my abilities and the reactions of the client.
Reading the Cards would be more analogous to developing good diagnostic skills by interpreting correctly the clues recieved in an anatomical examination and the signs/symptoms presented by the client.
Yes we are all Healers in need of healing. Anyhow just my 2 pennies worth…
BTW,I consider you to be a Master of your craft.
Ciao, T

By: Madame Seaqueen

Madame Seaqueen — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:37:44 +0000

Thank you for your feedback Tushko.

I always enjoy reading other people’s perspectives on some of the posts on this blog.
I agree with you that unless a person is willing to “work on themselves” it would not matter if you were the greatest Holistic healer or Practitioner of cards.

My journey with the Tarot has been a lengthy one, from a time when Tarot readers were not readily accepted by mainstream society. I think that due to the explosion of new books and decks on the Tarot cards a demystification has commenced. Many card readers are seeking other systems, such as the European sibillas (Lenormand, Zigeuener, Kipper, etc) mainly because it is a new mystery to be solved.

Other psychological systems such as the Rainring have been born. Generally speaking people want to know what makes them tick. When they get close to finding out where the broken spokes are as in a wheel -they have difficulty accepting that they are not whole.

Also, many people believe that they are “broken” or something is wrong with them because they have not accepted themselves. When I read the cards, I read the person’s energy and I listen to my guide. When a massage therapist begins their treatment they assess the energy of the body first prior to the manipulations involved in the actual massage. It is similar in a card reading (& I can only speak for myself unless others agree with me)because I read the person’s frequency even if I am looking at those pieces of card stock filled with images on the table.

In my experience, I have found it to be true that people want to see cards on the table. Perhaps with a health care practitioner it is the diploma hanging on the wall that can be equated to the cards.

We are all healers in need of a healing.

By: Tushko

Tushko — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:28:00 +0000

Very interesting article SQ.
The cards are a mearly tool or device, only as good or bad as the person using it.I think that Tarot cards only act as reminders or prompts to the reader as in which direction to focus their intuition or stream their awareness if you like.
Reading the Tarot I feel is like being a Holistic Therapist, you are a means by which the client can work on themselves,if they choose .
The information does not come from us rather through us ,we are the means by which internal information can be externalized for the client’s benefit through a third party ..Awareness is the greatest tool that any reader or healer can utilise..But as is the case in both professions we cannot heal that person they must do it for themselves.We can only act as facilitators of their inherent healing process….